It’s a recording of the Aaron Archer Q&A panel at TFCon 2014 by Internet Personality Vangelus!

If I’m honest, I wasn’t expecting Batman: Knight Force Ninjas to be among anyone’s top choices for a creative outlet, but I suppose we all find passion in our own things. Come to think, I did own the Riddler from that line… and I can’t argue that the solid bright green Knight Star Batmobile didn’t stand out on a shelf. (Too bad those kinds of colors stopped seeing their way into Transformers after, like, 1994.)

Another bit that stood out to me: a note in the slideshow that Aaron brainstormed for Micronauts, the Kevin Smith Superman movie, and Saban’s Los Luchadores. The latter, in particular, reminded me that a friend once said the cast of Los Luchadores was at Toy Fair one year, even though the show didn’t have an accompanying toyline. I’d assumed they were at a Bandai booth, but if a Los Luchadores toyline was in consideration at Hasbro… huh. I wouldn’t have expected Saban to branch out with their partnerships, but I guess Kenner did handle the VR Troopers line…

Anyway, the video is a fascinating watch (or listen). I recommend giving it a go!

"WHEN ASSEMBE THE BREAST THE SKEN DOSITION MUST FALL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM AND LIFT THE BREAST".

A set of wonderfully Engrish instructions to a knockoff Macross 7 Valkyrie.

Marvel Age cover and article about The Saga of Crystar, a property Marvel developed in-house with the intent of selling to toy companies (a similar situation to the later Brute Force miniseries). Unfortunately, the group that took Marvel’s bait was Remco, nobody’s favorite toymaker, and the franchise was dead after one wave of product (I think) and 11 comic issues. Though, check out that black and white art - how impressive is it that this medieval fantasy world developed the perm?

Cover art by Walt Simonson(!), character models by John Romita, Jr., interior artwork by Bret Blevins. The article about the creation of the Marvel handbooks was previously posted here.

Cardback to Speed Police: Super Change Series, an incredibly cheesy line of robots I found for $2.50 at a Big Lots store. As far as I can tell, I bought Hell Scorpion, except he comes with Hell Locust’s weapon. Also, I think Hell Scorpion’s torso cribs some of the engineering from Revenge of the Fallen Legends Mudflap, but the sculpting is all different, so I guess it’s not exactly a knockoff…
But seriously, HELL SKEETER is the real find here.

Cardback to Speed Police: Super Change Series, an incredibly cheesy line of robots I found for $2.50 at a Big Lots store. As far as I can tell, I bought Hell Scorpion, except he comes with Hell Locust’s weapon. Also, I think Hell Scorpion’s torso cribs some of the engineering from Revenge of the Fallen Legends Mudflap, but the sculpting is all different, so I guess it’s not exactly a knockoff…

But seriously, HELL SKEETER is the real find here.

I am not sure if I am capable of comprehending the existence of these Women of Robotech doll commercials.

A Wendy’s Kids Meal bag that was given away with the chain’s Teen Titans cartoon-based toys. As neat as the promo was, being licensed by Wendy’s is the fast food merch equivalent of being told that your beloved franchise is getting sent to live upstate on a nice farm; in the end, the attached Bandai coupon lasted slightly longer than the show did, expiring about a month after the final Titans episode aired on TV.

(I don’t know why the coupon wasn’t valid in Quebec.)

I do like that the evil aliens who trapped Robin somehow created magical bricks that can only be destroyed by math-based karate. Really showing some initiative, those evil aliens.

adam16bit:

monzo12782:

Limited Star Trek Highs and Lows

I RECENTLY WARNED that Playmates may one day try to find some way to re-release the 1701 series figures.

Well, call me a psychic - or a cynic - but my prediction came true. Playmates is releasing the three figures as a boxed set. And unless you consider…

Oh yes, White’s Guide to Collecting Toys.  You guys should read Monzo’s post and follow his Tumblr, it’s a good one.

It’s so amazing to think that people paid money for what constituted a price guide, and many mom & pop stores would use multiple guides for different reasons - I remember hearing a few local shops being accused of using White’s higher prices for selling, but Lee’s or ToyFare for buying.

Back in the 1990s I found the whole secondary market on new toys to be a bit baffling - on the whole, it seems to have died out as most toys hit quickly and hard.   eBay and Amazon allow sellers to display their wares, rather than making people go to the antique show or Brass Armadillo to see overpriced new toys in glass cases.

I remember Star Trek commanding a lot of premium prices - Borg and Troi in year one, Lore and Guinan were particularly hard to find, plus the situation with waves was such that it wasn’t uncommon to see a figure on a cardback that may not yet be in stores until much later.  This caused people to assume - sometimes incorrectly - that the item was out and people were scrambling to find them.  It’s difficult to convey the sheer preposterousness of the 1990s toy rumor mill, everybody had a brother or a cousin that found a toy that hadn’t yet seen release.  (See: 12-inch Chewbacca, Removable Helmet Darth Vader.)

My opinion back then was that toy reissues are a Very Bad Thing for any dead line.  Kenner Super Powers was over, so I didn’t want to see more of them - do something new.  On the other hand, “current” lines, I felt, should ship to meet demand - so I think they did good by making more of those rare figures, but by the time it happened I had moved on to more Kennery pastures.   There is a feeling in toy lines - and it’s partially true - that you should inject rarity or some sort of lower-run toy in a line to boost interest.   It makes the company no money on that product, but the buzz can be valuable and cheap marketing in collector circles.  I personally did not want a Tapestry Picard figure in my collection, but I sure as heck looked for one - I’d have been delighted to have sold it off to pay for pretty much every toy I’d buy in a given year.

When it comes to the secondary market and speculation on modern toys, I actually want people to lose money in the short term.   If a figure you bought on clearance today is worth more money down the road, that’s cool.  If an old figure in your closet is worth a few bones, go ahead and sell it.  If you buy a figure today at regular price to sit on until it potentially hatches… well… that’s the 1990s for you, and why the comic market and trading card market are what they are.

My enjoyment of any toy or collectible is increased when other fans can get it.  I’d prefer to hear from fans who say “I read your review of that figure, I went out and got it and I love it!” rather than “I read your review, and I can’t find the toy for less than $50 on eBay.”   If I ran a toy line as some sort of tyrant, I’d be more kid-driven - all toys released in big numbers, and any and all “collectibility” should be coincidental or an accident.

As a young fan at the time, I was less interested in Star Trek figures by the time 1701 was a thing because of what I considered to be too many uninteresting costumes on Data, Picard, Riker, and the like.  We never got Sherlock Data, but we got Malcorian Riker without a companion Bebe Neuwirth.  We got a whole line of Generations figures with reduced articulation and outfits not in the movie, so by Tapestry Picard my collection had a few gaps and I think I could count the number of figures I bought on one hand after Playmates decided to make everyone’s collections incomplete.  People were also very interested in getting figures with a lower collector number - but I don’t believe I ever met someone who paid a premium to get it.

The big takeaway from this is how this excerpt is a reminder of the gulf of the toy world of the 1990s and 2010s.  In the 1990s, Playmates sold hundreds of thousands of each figure to collectors as well as a younger kid audience who watch the show on TV every week. Diamond’s last few Trek figures were produced in 1,500-3,000.  The fact that figures were numbered left many fans leaving their Playmates Star Trek toys in the package because maybe they could sell them later.   I know a few collectors now who buy and love things, but also treat them as a thing they may have to sell later.   I see buying a toy as flushing money down a toilet, that toy will likely be here with me when they pull me out in a body bag.

There are indeed still a lot of collectors buying things to sell later, especially as Comic-Con exclusives go. Many have told me that they go to San Diego to purchase items to sell later to pay for the trip - which to me seems exhausting and wasteful.  Now that most 1990s Star Trek and Star Wars toys are borderline worthless, I would say that this mentality tends to not work all the time… but it seems there are several items from 2006-present that *were* worthless but started getting more expensive with time.   This is how I’d prefer to see things, I hate the idea of anyone making a brand-new toy and intentionally shorting the market in the name of hype.   Even back then I found it unpleasant, but that’s why I subscribed to Tomart’s Action Figure Digest - the only price guides were for dead lines, where they may be of value to me as a collector.   Looking back on it, considering the lead time for print, the price guides were utterly preposterous - ToyFare and/or Lee’s would make up a price for a figure that, when the magazine hit your mailbox, still wasn’t available.  In some cases this seemed to dictate the market, rather than the market dictating the price guide.

I asked Adam here if he could spare some insights into the quote about Star Trek toy prices I dug up up from an old magazine, and he exceeded my expectations something fierce! This is a most interesting read, and I’m sorry it took me a while to share it.

If chunks of plastic have a place in your heart, I recommend checking out his Tumblr or his website. Also apparently he’s a big thing in Star Wars circles? I dunnos.

Limited Star Trek Highs and Lows

I RECENTLY WARNED that Playmates may one day try to find some way to re-release the 1701 series figures.

Well, call me a psychic - or a cynic - but my prediction came true. Playmates is releasing the three figures as a boxed set. And unless you consider packaging to be a collectible item, this seems like a blatant violation of the limited run promise.

Reactions have been quite mixed.

Many collectors are happy to finally have the figures priced within their budgets. But at least 1,701 collectors are understandably bitter, because they spent $1,500-plus for a set of three guaranteed rare figures that are now relatively common.

Limiting a figure to 1,701 units in a market with hundreds of thousands of collectors is a terrible idea. It deprives the vast majority of collectors of any chance of owning the piece.  It also starves supply enough to force the few collectors who can get the piece to pay crazy prices.

Playmates’ decision to re-release only serves to alienate the original 1,701 collectors - and rightly so, since the carded figures have dropped significantly in value following news of the gift set’s release. And re-issuing these figures in an attempt to regain the love of those who were excluded the first time generates more distrust than good will among collectors. They now doubt that any limited figure is a sure bet, and they will be less likely to shell out big cash for fear that this will happen again.

Picards are now being dumped at $300 to $400, Yars at $200 to $250 and Barclays at $100 to $125 - and they aren’t even selling at these prices.

Making a figure available to more than 1,701 collectors is the right idea, but it should have been done in the first run. This three pack re-release can be seen not only as adding insult to injury but also as just plain bad business.

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I ran into this rant about limited-edition Playmates Star Trek toys in a 1998 issue of White’s Guide to Collecting Figures I found while cleaning. Even as someone whose hobbies center around toy-based franchises, I find the ideas on display here almost alien. I mean… I’ve been to a lot of BotCons (the official Transformers convention), gotten the exclusive toys sold at them, but… I don’t think of those as investments, but as mementos of the experience. (For good or ill; I will probably forever link the 2013 Machine Wars set with the experience of being unable to hang with pals until late because there were no places to hang on the hotel grounds - not even a mid-sized lobby! - but that’s for another day.)

The idea of being angry about an exclusive figure becoming more wildly available is not something I’m sure I can comprehend… well, not if it’s re-released legitimately. When a bootlegger sold copies of the BotCon Shattered Glass Rodimus, that DID bother me, because on top of violating a bunch of intellectual property laws, it felt disrespectful to the people who’d made the things in the first place. (Mind - if you bought one of those, I know the real one is mad expensive, so I can understand if you needed it to fill an Evil Rodimus-shaped hole in your heart.)

Anyway. I never collected Star Trek toys, so it’s possible I’m missing some nuance - the zeitgeist of the era or whatever - looking back on this now, but… I dunno. Just felt like sharing and commenting.

Ad for a variety of World Wrestling Federation figures (including Hulk Hogan, Iron Sheik, and Rowdy Roddy Piper) and “Hulkamania exercise equipment” from LJN Toys. Scan from the fall 1987 issue of ThunderCats Magazine.

Ad for a variety of World Wrestling Federation figures (including Hulk Hogan, Iron Sheik, and Rowdy Roddy Piper) and “Hulkamania exercise equipment” from LJN Toys. Scan from the fall 1987 issue of ThunderCats Magazine.

monzo12782:

"Superduty Gadder Robot" is a Machine Robo Rescue knockoff I found at Big Lots some years ago. The packaging’s pseudo-English translation is nothing short of incredible.

"Shoving glebe robot" is still a marvelous designation.